The majority of the board acted in an unprofessional manner with blatant disregard for the wishes of community they were elected to serve. It worries me to think of what little effort they were willing to put in to the hiring of the new superintendent and makes me wonder their motive. Was it just plain laziness? Now we are faced with watching them fill a vacant board position as well as the prospect of closing schools. After witnessing the board's behavior for 2 consecutive evenings I shudder to think of what the future holds for our district. We as taxpayers owe it to our children and our community to stay involved and make sure the board lives up to their promise of forming a committee to look at the budget issues.

Finally a decision made with common sense in the wake of the financial state of the school district and state. Everyone that disagrees should reach into their own pocket and waste money to conduct a search to find someone that hasnt worked in this district. Now is not the time to be careless and wasteful with money. We have great schools and I don't understand the need for all this nonsense.

I too was at that meeting last night and I agree with "Concerned Parent" over the way the community conducted themselves. I was appalled at the way some of them were acting. We were there to show support for our kids and their schools....not start a war with the Board. I agree with Joe also on how they hired Ms. Rains. I do believe she is perfectly qualified and I am not for an all expense search, however, there should have been at least some kind of search. If she were the best candidate out of all applicants, then so be it, but no search??? That makes no sense. I would also like to say that I am highly disappointed in the amount of community members that showed up. If you took the teachers, administrative and support staffs out of the room...that left very few of us parents. Although, it was a good showing, it still should have been more. everyone sho has an opinion one way or another over this whole thing should have been there to express that opinion! You say you support your school but then don't show up for important meetings. I'm just sayin......

Maybe community members seemed a little disrespectful because they are finally seeing what our board is doing. Why ask the community what they want and then do something underhanded. Residents need to be more aware of the motives of the people in office. Next elections for members should be interesting!!!!!!!!

Well, Honesty - Stacey Borgens, Joy Murphy and Mary Kenny were completely honest with the community, they just didn't agree with you and a few others in attendence. They want to keep Barb Rains and the three ladies listed many many reasons for their decision - that to me is NOT underhanded!

Trust me , we will be heard in the next election. This board needs to realize they were elected by the people.

Honest with the community??? Really? Then why didnt they listen to us? I am sure you are one of the people who hangs with them in the bars after meetings so be real for a minute. They are so professional!

All, you want to talk about unprofessionalism? How professional was it to ask Beth Lind to educate the board on the Advisory time at SHJH and then turn it in to a personal discussion about 1 board member's own child? And how professional was it to pound the gavel and ask the public to stop speaking when you don't like what they are saying?

Honesty, REALLY??? Some public comments encouraged them to do a search, other were fine keeping Barb Rains.

Were does it say the Summit Hill School District 161 Board of Education HAS to listen to you? You and your friends sounded /and still sound like a bunch of bullies. Keep trying, I doubt you can bully Borgens, Murphy and Kenny.

Sounds to me like the board only consists of Borgens, Murphy and Kenny. Did everybody else forget about the other board members.Oh yeah, one of them had trouble staying awake during the meeting last night too. The only reason they are feeling bullied is because they are getting questioned on their ways of doing business and they are too unprofessional to know how to handle it.

This has absolutely nothing to do with being friends with anybody. All it has to do with is the fact that the board did not post the job opening like they do for every other job that becomes available and then go thru the interview process. When they shirk their responsibilities as a board member to follow protocol, they should expect to be questioned. It is really that simple.

It is obvious to see that "Concerned Parent is a friend to one or all of the board members. I was at last nights meeting, as well as, Tuesday nights meeting. It was clear to me why such anger was displayed at the board meetings. The board picked Rains because she is a friend and ally to the members, a pick from the outside could bring in someone who will not simply roll over to the boards decisions. The board will now fill in a vacant position, most likely another friend will be picked, in a time frame that allows few applicants. I was proud of the way people were acting, taking a stand on their childrens future. I was more embarassed by the boards 11:30 p.m cowardly decision to elect a new superintendent. Now Barb Rains could be a great superintendent, but with no other competition, we don't know if there was a better choice. I feel like I'm back, living in Chicago, with the politics going on here. Yes we have great schools, but with this boards decisions, things can change. I don't have the answers on what to do, but I do know that closing schools will increase class sizes. I also know by statistics, that increasing class sizes will have a negative impact on the children.

Concerned Parent- I do not know either how it was done in the past. If it was done that way then it has been done wrong all along. Just because it was done wrong in the past does not mean we should just continue it then...How do we know we are better off now when we do not know what else is out there. It is very shortsighted to say the least. I understand that you do not have all the facts and neitgher do I, however it is becoming very clear that the board does not have all the facts either becuase they did not do their due diligence. Plain and simple.

My first question to the board, is why did you ask for community input? The community made it perfectly clear they wanted you to do a Superintendent search, yet you chose to hire Barb Rains. Where is Barb Rains resume? What are her certifications, experience? The board made this a circus by having a Town Hall meetings, teacher and parent surveys, then ignoring the wishes of community. One last thing, Mr Perros said something about the budget crisis being related to rising salaries. In the current budget salaries and benefits account for over 20 million, of that teacher salaries account for close to 13 million. Did the board not realize they are scheduled for 5% increase? If they did, how could they have allowed deficit spending this school year? If salaries and benefits account for close 80% of our district operating budget, the only way to balance the budget is to cut some salary (=larger class size).

It is also clear that this is exactly what 3 of the board members wanted from the start. Why didn't they post the opening as soon as Keith Pain resigned 6 months ago ? They knew that if they waited till the last minute they would have no other choice but to do what they wanted from the start. I really feel bad for Barb Rains because the board is putting her thru this for not doing their job.

Ya know what....this is ALL getting ridiculous!! We are all supposed to be on the same side here. 1st of all...to accuse the board of hanging out in bars (or anyone that supports the board) is ridiculously childish. Really??? Come on people. We're not in High School anymore. Grow up! 2nd....As most parents said last night, 100% of the community will not be happy with decisions made. Barb Rains was voted in as Superintendant. It's done. Let's move on. We have a huge fight ahead of us to keep our schools open and I for one think that at the moment, that is much more important. No matter who was elected into the Supt. position, they still have to deal with this deficit and possible school closings. Did they do their due dilligence by hiring BR?? If she's qualified, which apparantly she is from what I have read & understand, then yes, they did. Being in 3 schools in this District has shown me that there are not enough volunteers to help at different school sponsored events. But boy does everyone like to complain when something isn't right. You want your voice to really be heard?? Then do something about it!! Put your name in for the open Board spot. Don't be an all talk no action person. All I am hearing on this comment page is alot of talk. How about some real ideas on how to make things work?? We ALL want whats best for our kids but all everyone is doing is picking at each other or at the board. Come on guys...let's band together on this!

And as for "Are you Kidding Me"....I do not believe anyone forced KP out! I believe he got his money and ditched. Search or no search, the decision is done. Move on to the more pressing issue and quit the mud slinging!

How can we move on to the budget decisions when we cannot trust that our voice will be heard then either. Do you really mean band together or just bow down to the boards decisions every time ??They have showed that they will do whatever they want. Trust me, people will run for this open board position. We will also remember come election time as well.

You think last nights turnout was impressive, wait untill you see the turnout at the next election. We will be heard one way or another

Why don't we leave the playground fighting to the preschoolers and stop insulting and insinuating and get to the matter at hand our kids, class sizes, closing of schools and a quality education. Everyone is not going to agree with everything it is how you deal with the desicions and move on that shows who the real adults are that have our kids futures in mind.

The patch needs to get rid of the comment section I for one am embarrassed at the behavior!

Where has this so called "concerned community " been before this? Isn't this what the past board did too? Where was the concern when right before the election we were told we were fine with the money our school district had? Where ws everyone when the oLd board voted to extend Pain's contract AND give him a pay raise.Why did some tell us we had the money when we did not! Let's give Barb Rains a chance. At least I know she is ready to listen not just to the parents but the students too.

This nothing agaisnt Barb. I, for one, fully intend to give her a chance and support her as best as I can. Again, people are upset with the board and their refusal to consider those suggestioms that were contrary to what they already had in mind! I am also ashamed of myself for not getting involved sooner however I will not make that mistake again. It is time for our district to set aside our differences and pull together to find a way to avoid school closings.

I also agree with Lynn! "Parents", I mean exactly what I said...Band together to support our schools!! Whether BR is in charge or someone else, we have a problem here. Just like with the President of the US...the new guys is left with old guys mess and will have to dig his way out. Well, that's what we have here. I have no ulterior motive for saying "band together"...I don't "bow down" to anyone! Shouldn't we, as a community already be banded togehter?? According to these coments, the so-called community is more like a lynch mob. I want my son to go Arbury Hills next year like he should be. Period!! I want the reachers in both those schools to keep their jobs. Period! I do not want larger class sizes and I do NOT want my child bussed to the other end of the District when I likve down the street for a wonderful school! Get a grip people! We need to fight to keep these schools open!! I sure hope that our kids don't learn from the bullish behavior that is going on in the comment section. Everyone has their opinion. everyone THINKS their opinion is the right one. But we have one common ground here...keeping the schools open.

I had to deal with Pain a few times. What ever experience he had sure didn't help!! I have dealt with Rains and had a much better experience.Does the community not realize the old board did the same thing! They did not listen to the community either. As I have said, put personal issues aside and do what is best for the students.. However not everyone is going to agree what is best. As for school closing I am mad that ta man stood up and said when the did the zoning 4 years ago they knew this would happen. Why didn't they express that then so we could be prepared.

Outraged did you read that the board was in closed session for 90 mins last night? I find it hard to believe that they didn't discuss community input at all. Did you not hear that Dr. Wylie & other very qualified professionals recommended that Mrs. Rains be appointed? They are members of the community too. Or was the board supposed to ignore their educated opinions? It's easy to sit in the audience you have your friends, whispering, you can play angry birds &only check into the converstaion when it suits you. And I have to ask, are any of you nay-sayers paying attention to the positive changes that were made over the last 6 months? Being a board member is an unpaid position - they are expected to make the best decisions with the information they are given. I think this board had 6 months to watch Mrs. Rain's performance as interim super, if she hadn't been getting the job done, I think the 6 board members would've been looking elsewhere in Sept. I hope as we go forward people who actually care about the district come to the meetings & then share the facts with the rest of the community rather than the lies & half truths that were circling this past week.

Also, you don't need to wait until election day-there's an open position on the board right now. Any takers? I doubt it, because it would take commitment and you wouldn't get the chance to complain. After last night - I'm shocked that there aren't more open seats, I wouldn't want to put up with your crap - Outraged, Are you kidding me, parents & Frank.

It's not that I think they were underhanded so much as unprofessional. Maybe Barb is the best candidate out there for the position but maybe she isn't. We will never know because the board never gave us the opportunity to figure that out. I reserve my right to form any judgment on Barb. I truly hope she does a great job. But I don't see how anyone can argue that she is the best one out there when her experience is in human resources and community relations. She has no experience as an administrator nor in an elementary classroom. Mary said that she's done a great job over the last six months, but who wouldn't if they knew how much was at stake. We didn't have to hire a search firm to try to find other candidates. They could have formed a committee of professionals (some with hiring experience and some with educational experience) to handle the initial screening and interviewing. At the very least, they could have posted the position on the website. What extra cost would that be to taxpayers? At least it would show that they tried. On the Patch's website, of the people surveyed 87% said they didn't want Barb as superintendent. It's frustrating when so many people speak out and the board doesn't listen. They should have gone through the process.

Suspicious Thoughts...First of all you don't know me and you have no idea where my kid goes to school now. I'm sure everyone will adjust if we have to. What I am saying is that we shouldn't have to. We love our schools, we love the closeness of them and the teachers that are teaching them. Transporation for all these extra kids is going to cost alot of money as well. No matter how you look at it, we are going to either be paying higher fees or higher taxes. There is no way around it. I live down the street from a great school and I want it to stay open. PERIOD!! I'm sorry that everyone else's OPINIONS don't match up with yours. You can't please everyone so why don't you quit nitpicking at everyones comments? You have such a strong OPINION on things...run for the open board seat. I'm trying to be a voice of reason among all the bickering and your basically telling me to just suck it up and send my kid to who knows where. Shame on you. You obviously do not have the KIDS best interest at heart. Also, Suspicious Mind, I thought I'd share the definition of "Opinion" with you taken straight out of the dictionary: Opinion - A belief NOT based on a certainty but on what seems true or probable. So, therefore, we have our OPINIONS and don't need to back them up. You certainly don't back your opinions up. And "Seriously?".....RIGHT ON!!!

I have an issue on what has been going on lately. I received an e-mail from Mr. Macek and Mrs. Glawe. I have never communicated with them personally so they would not have had access to my e-mail. I feel that they may have used their positions on the park district board and the Summit Hill Foundation to send out e-mails regarding what was happening with the hiring of the superintendent. When I give out my e-mail to organizations I trust it will be used for information and updates on those organizations and not using it to "get their message across". . Didn't Mr. Macek lose in the last election? Didn't Mrs. Glawe lose in the election before that? She never even ran for the board in the first place and was appointed. I really question their motives and will be calling those organizations to remove me from their email lists. I am well informed on what is going on because I do attend the meetings and don't need to hear their opinions. I can figure it out all on my own.

I am pleased with the way SH161 has done things. The school system has been very good for our family of four children. I do not know Barb Rains, and I will support her because its the right thing to do. We need her to succeed in pulling us through the current financial situation. But I do not understand why the position was not posted. Parents only want the best qualified person for the position. If that person is Barb Rains, then that is who we want running our district. The Board did the community a disservice by not seeking other potential candidates. No excuses. Using the 'short time frame' excuse implies poor management of the issue. If the Board members were unwilling to go through the hiring process because it was too difficult, then its time to move on. This is what you sign on for when you seek the position. I am very disappointed that the families living in this school district will not have the opportunity to have qualified candidates compete for this important position. We'll never know.....
and thats just not right!

I also received the emails from Dave Macek and Rebecca Glawe. I no longer have children in school in this district. After reading all of these comments, I can see why there is a behavioral/bullying problem. Children learn what they live.

Suspicious Minds....my apologies to you, I had you confused with someone elses posts. I am big enough to admit I made a mistake. But yes, I am overly sensitive to things because these are my children and my $$ at stake. My reasons for wanting the school to stay open reach alot further then what I mentioned. I know exactly what is going on, I am not an idiot. Anytime you close a school it is bad for a community, the district and the real estate market. I simply stated about bussing because expensive transportation will have to be involved. Not to mention starting and ending times. Who wants their 5 year olds coming home at 4 p.m.? The point I have been trying to make all day is that we need to figure out a way to keep them open. Nobody wants any school to close, for financial reasons especially...it doesn't say much about how our District handles things. So, yes, I am oversensitive to this issue. I care about my kids....sue me!! I care about where the hell 2 million dollars disappeared to. I care about the teachers, and the schools and the community that I have lived in for the past 16 years!! So forgive me if I get annoyed at the bickering and nitpicking and whatever, I thought we were a commnity looking to solve a problem, not point fingers and trash talk people. What's done is done....let's find a way to fix it is what I have been trying to say. Much love to you too Suspicious Minds....Merry Christmas!

Why didn't "the old board" as you call it do the 8th grade math and determine that our payroll would be 1.3 million higher than it was 2 years ago (plus an increase in benefits) ? Lenz / Kenny / Murphy & Doyle were all on the board, Also, I thought it was terrible that Mrs Kenny cut of Mrs Glawe, why can't she have her 5 min ?. Lastly I was very disturbed when Kenny and Murphy jumped all over Beth Lind, (we will miss her when seeks employment in a new district for the 2012-13 school year) Kudos's to Mrs Coughlin for letting them know what an outstanding administrator she is

Everyone keeps talking about the board not l;istening to the community. Sure there was alot of people at the meeting last night. we have how many families in the district? I am sure we didn't even have 1/8 of the communtiy there.So please don't say yhe board did not listen to the community.

I wish I could of stayed to listen to Lind talk about advisory. I have had children in Summit Hill and still do. I never knew in advisory they teach. Why are they being taught or coached for the ISATS? Isn't suppose to be from what they already have been taught? I thank the board member for sharing with us her experience with her daughter. It means she is these type of things in high school and they definitely do not use them as grades.

get real is right. As I stated earlier, if you took the teachers (who were there to make sure they'll have a job next year), the administrators and support staff out of the room...there would have been empty seats. That's sad.

Informed you are correct have a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year!

to Informed - you are correct, our teachers must be great negotiators, because they got a great contract from the "old board" (although Mary Kenny defended it by saying our teachers were underpaid), but that doesn't excuse the fact that Lenz / Murphy / Kenny & Doyle ( and our business manager) should have seen this coming!!! Anyone can see they dropped the ball on this one.
to Get Real- please go back and listen to the pod-cast, I'm pretty sure you'll change your mind about the Advisory periods, I felt they were trying to embarrass Mrs Lind. If they have a problem with way this period is being used they should first discuss this with her immediate supervisors -Mrs Rains & Mr Martin. Good luck to Mrs Rains, I really hope she can lead us through this difficult time

Citizen, How does Ms. Lind deal with parent issues if this is the way she treats the board?

Informed - I have dealt with Ms Lind and always found he to be extremely professional. I live in the real world and my supervisor would never call me out like that in a public forum. In a private or internal meeting - yes. If parents have concerns about the Advisory period they should be taking them to Lind, Martin & Rains, not running to our school board members.
Our administrators are the education experts- not our board members. If Kenny, Murphy or any other board members have issues with this class period they should take their concerns to Rains and Martin.
In my opinion, this board tends to micro-manage the district. The board of education should make the policy, and the superintendent implements it.

Board members took the proper channel. Come on, Ms. Lind was not sitting a chair in the back of the room being "called out". It was an agenda item, obviously there must have been a reason why it was on the agenda. (possibly for the board to get a handle on a program that seems to change year after year after year....as Ms. Lind explained) Personally she seemed as confused as the two board members. I have been to other board meetings and have heard board members ask many questions from the items that were on the agenda and never saw such a response like they were being attack. I have heard many different questions discussed on many different subjects from Spec. Ed. to finance to educational issues, and so on.

Oh, by the way, Ms. Lind asked "does the board have any questions?" Shame on them for having a few!

If Mrs. Lind is SO professional why did she act so unprofessionally when questioned about educational issues. The questions asked were NOT awful, Mrs. Lind seems to not like being questioned!

What a joke! Anytime the board questions something they are called "micromanagers". Remember the buck stops with the board. Some board members don't have any questions and some board members do!

We have a 2.5 million dollar shortfall. If board members start asking the bus. manager questions will that be considered micromanaging. I believe if the board were doing there job over the past few years we wouldn't have built what we didn't need.

Informed, this will be my last response, the fact that an item is on the agenda really has no bearing, nor does Ms Lind's salary, or some peoples perception about what the Advisory period is or is not accomplishing. An item like this should be taken care of by the superintendent and / or the assistant superintendent, it falls under curriculum. When the board addresses issues like this- it's micro-managing!

Now the budget- that is the boards responsibility!! I realize they were saddled with a 30+ % increase in teacher salary over a 5 year period, but I am willing to bet each member has known about the budget crisis for quite sometime. Why wasn't a committee put together months ago to begin addressing this? Mrs Murphy said in April she is “scared for what is down the road” Now in December we are scrambling to cut 2.5 million. So far this board seems to be reactive rather than proactive.

I too have had to deal or try to deal with Lind. It is like talking to a wall. She hears what she wants too and sees what she wants too. She thinks her school is perfect the way it is, kind of sounds like Pain.

get real, I have NEVER had that impression from Mrs. Lind, she has always been professional and positive. She told you her school is perfect? I dought that very much. Oh and your bringing up Pain again...let it go, not working.

Are you kidding me? is Sean William

I am not a fan of any of our principals but I do support them! The board was very underhanded in the last meeting. They ask for public opinion when they already know what they are planning on doing. Unappropriate relationships between board members and union members is obvious in frankfort. How long before they hire their partners as principals??

I can not support people I do not believe in. Where you at the board meetings about a year ago? They too were very undrehanded. The community spoke but they also had there minds made up. Do not these volunteer board members have a right to become friends with wohmever they want? Look at the world in jobs, sports etc.. Alot of positions are by who you know. If it is true that "the community " has spoken and want new board members then we will have ALOT of candidates on the ballott!

So no one can be friends with the Union president? These are not paying positions. I am very good friends with my boss so does that mean she should not let me still work at the company or not give me a good review? How do you know what kind of relationship they have? You must know them personally.

Teachers should be happy the union and board are getting along...it seems to me that many of the board members care a great deal about our teachers. JUst go to board meeting/podcast and listen to what is discussed.

When is the union election? if he/she is not UnionPresident or chooses not toss their name in, realisticly that will free him/her up to take an administrative position, which in many districts is a natural progression. I know people from Homer and told me the principal from Indian Trail was a teacher, then a union President ,and know a principal. Is anything wrong with that?

RHLW,
You seriously need to grow up. Honestly now, This whole.....who is sleeping with who has been mentioned time and time again by YOU!!! Unless you are snuggling with them while they are "sleeping together", its all hearsay. For the record, I do not know anyone on the Board personally. Your posts make you sound like you are a bitter person for one reason or another, and seem to always try and stir up dirt. Seriously, why don't you run for the Board..........OR are you already a Board member?

I am so tired of hearing the same story. Unless you have talked to the board member personally you do not know what is going on in his/her life. Once again these members are not being payed. I think they do the best they can and give more of their time then we realize. I f you are a board member then work with theat oerson and stop causing problems.

I am so tired of hearing the same story. Unless you have talked to the board member personally you do not know what is going on in his/her life. Once again these members are not being payed. I think they do the best they can and give more of their time then we realize. I f you are a board member then work with theat oerson and stop causing problems.

Anyone who says the board does not care about what the teachers say surely must be mistaken. What about when the teachers at a school were asking for another social worker?? I believe two board members (you know who) voted against it. What about when teachers have to handle the behavorial problems (which takes away teaching time of the other students) because adminstration can't be bothered. The board IS for the teachers-well most of the board at least. It is the administration who talks in circles and does whatever to make it look good on paper.

The board appoints a new member and stil not happy? First of all who doesn't gossip? Second I heard rumors too(won't say names) was going to say eveything the board wanted to hear and then turn on them. I am assuming those who are still complaining put their names in to run on the board, right?

Denise Wildevelde was NOT on the board last spring. RHLW your and your friends are the ones spreading all sorts of rumors.

Oh well Maybe she wanted Keith Pain gone, well so did many others that live in this community, haven't heard many community members that miss him.
She has a right to voice her opinion truth or not....look you and your friends lie through your teeth every time you post something. Shame on you.

Blah blah blah. You must be a board member to know all of this or you know a board memberwho is gossiping. Sounds like to me alot of people like to spread rumorsand gossip on this comment board. RHLW, did you run for board or try to fill the position? You seem to know alot about everyone.

If your buddies are going to watch Summit Hill school board so closely (like with a fine tooth comb), RHLW let's start attending LW 210 meetings, township meetings, frankfort Square park district meetings, 843 meetings,
wildcat football/cheerleading meetings, etc...oh the very best would be attending those wonderful FSBL meetings...that would be great and then maybe we can go out afterwards for free drinks on the baseball board..i believe I heard from someone Dave Macek wouldn't miss a free round of drinks...why? in my opinion too many men in the community think Macek walks on water and they continue to follow him...guess what he doesn't! Talk about disfunctional boards...let's start talking. What has that man ever fought for? So many people are sick of the politics that go along with their children playing baseball, football/cheerleading it is so sad the favoritism that is displayed throughout our community....not just with Summit Hill district 161 but the FSBL and Wildcats football/cheerleading. These are the same men that come to District 161 school board meetings and act like a bunch of bullies....trying to intimidate even with very little information/often inaccurate. As a community we should start watching these men alittle closer....are you sure you know where your money is going? Start paying attention, you will be surprised.

If your buddies are going to watch Summit Hill school board so closely (like with a fine tooth comb), RHLW let's start attending LW 210 meetings, township meetings, frankfort Square park district meetings, 843 meetings,
wildcat football/cheerleading meetings, etc...oh the very best would be attending those wonderful FSBL meetings...that would be great and then maybe we can go out afterwards for free drinks on the baseball board..i believe I heard from someone Dave Macek wouldn't miss a free round of drinks...why? in my opinion too many men in the community think Macek walks on water and they continue to follow him...guess what he doesn't! Talk about disfunctional boards...let's start talking. What has that man ever fought for? So many people are sick of the politics that go along with their children playing baseball, football/cheerleading it is so sad the favoritism that is displayed throughout our community....not just with Summit Hill district 161 but the FSBL and Wildcats football/cheerleading. These are the same men that come to District 161 school board meetings and act like a bunch of bullies....trying to intimidate even with very little information/often inaccurate. As a community we should start watching these men alittle closer....are you sure you know where your money is going? Start paying attention, you will be surprised.

RHLW, you really like to name call and put people down, don't you?! All I am saying is actions speak louder then words. So instead of name calling and putting down, get on the board and see how good you are at it.
Also I think you missed the all point to Informed. There is favoritism and "who you know" everywhere, not just the school board.HMMM!!! who may not be smart?

Who would a board member get fired?...or is this another one of your rumors.
By the way my girls were great athletes...FSBL or Wildcat Football/Cheerleading
crushed many hearts of the children in our community, simply because there dad wasn't in the "in" crowd or drinking buddies with someone from the "in" crowd.

I have reread Informed comments, no where does it say anything about his/her kids but kids in general. He /she was just comparing. At least he/she cares about the kids. RHLW, you just want to knock everyone done and try to start trouble. I think everyone knows who needs to get fired at Summit Hill. Get the people who only want things to look good on paper and not really is what happening,OUT

What facts? rumor? How do you have proof? Did you hire an outside firm to investigate?

Readers:

This is a general reminder: Keep your comments civil. Personal shots accomplish nothing when discussing these types of issues. They come across as an attempt to mask an inability to make an effective argument.

Everyone participating here is clearly passionate about these issues, and I encourage you to debate with as much passion as you can muster. Just do so respectfully, treating the people you disagree with the same way you'd like them to treat you.

And that goes double for unfounded rumors and speculation. Spouting off about personal relationships or making thinly veiled accusations about wrong-doing without any facts is, quite frankly, irresponsible, unmitigated crap. If you can't--or are unwilling to--back up your claims with attribution or without hiding behind a pseudonym, then keep it to yourself. How would you view the reporting on Patch if I posted scandalous stories based solely on "the word on the street" and then didn't even use my real name? And what if those stories were about you? Making sure my reporting is accurate and responsible is something I take very seriously. I don't expect commenters to do the type of research I do (that's my job, and it's one of the reasons, I hope, why you keep reading), but they should consider the gravity of their remarks before making wild allegations.

OK, lecture over. We now return you to your regularly scheduled commenting, already in progress.

Joe Vince
Local editor, Frankfort

Thank you Joe.