Does the Newtown Shooting Change Your Mind About Concealed Carry? (Poll)
In the same week 30 people were killed in two separate incidents, a federal court overturned the state's ban on a carrying concealed weapon. Have these attacks changed your views on that ban?
- By Joe Vince
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- December 16, 2012
This week, America's ongoing debate over gun control and the Second Amendment took center stage nationally and locally, growing out of two tragic events and an Illinois legal decision.
On Dec. 11, the 7th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals overturned Illinois' ban on concealed firearms, calling it unconstitutional and forcing the state to create a law allow concealed carry, the Huffington Post reports.
READ: Check Out the Huffington Post for More Details About the Federal Court's Decision
That same day, Jacob Tyler Roberts shot up Seattle's Clackamas Town Center mall with a semiautomatic AR-15 rifle, killing two people before turning the weapon on himself, according to reports.
On Dec. 14, hours before Clackamas Town Center was to reopen since the shooting, Adam Lanza walked in to Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newtown, Conn., with a .223 rifle and two handguns—a Glock and a Sig Sauer—and reportedly killed 20 students, six adults and himself, Newtown Patch and the Huffington Post report.
READ: Go to Newtown Patch for Complete Coverage of the Sandy Hook Shooting
And all of this comes on the heels of Chicago's rash of shootings this past summer, as well as the city's climbing murder rate.
Since the news of the Connecticut shooting broke, south suburban residents—be they advocates of stronger gun control laws or Second Amendment purists—galvanized their positions (see examples from Twitter on Storify in this article) across social media.
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But did these recent shootings change your views over firearm ownership, especially when it comes to a new state concealed-carry law? Are these incidents proof to you that stricter regulations are in order to stop further killings like this? Or do the attacks in Seattle and Newtown show what happens when people aren't able to arm and defend themselves?
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Steven Eldred
10:57 am on Sunday, December 16, 2012
It's not the concealed carry folks who are committing these crimes. If you were in a shopping mall or a school where one of these insane killers appeared, would you rather be hiding under a desk in the corner of a room hoping the maniac doesn't come your way; or would you prefer to have an armed citizen in your company just in case?
How do you disarm a nation like ours? Do you declare a police state and go into everyone’s home, rip the place apart. Do you punish the good citizens; render them defenseless and unable to protect themselves and their families in these situations?
I took a CCW class and got a license five years ago. When the Sheriff issued the permits there were about 50 applicants present. At the end of the meeting the Sheriff said that in this group he was with 50 of the most law abiding and trustworthy citizens he comes into contact with while doing his job. We had all been vetted by the local, state, and federal police agencies.
If you want to control law abiding American citizens who hunt, shoot, and collect firearms…how and to what length would you go to do that? Remember, we are not and never have been Canada or the UK. Also, I’m pretty sure that a large number of conservatives and democrats fall in the gun owner category; well over half the voting population.
I want to be armed if I ever get in a situation where one of these insane killers appears. I don’t want to be hiding under a desk with my cell phone as my only defense.
cogwheel
6:41 pm on Sunday, December 16, 2012
Steven . I couldn't have said it any beter, and when Illinois gets passes the law they're being forced to pass, I'll be applying for my permit the next day.
Lori Fields
11:40 am on Sunday, December 16, 2012
Yes it does change my mind. I was totally against children being exposed to guns at school. They are so young and impressionable, why introduce them to guns so young? But now? Why do we protect our banks with armed guards and not school children? Why do we protect our courts with armed guards but not our school children? Why can some criminal walk into a school with a gun and shoot people like sitting ducks because the teacher, the law abiding citizen, is a sitting duck. The teacher is not allowed to be armed for protection and our children are sitting ducks
Roxane T
1:53 pm on Sunday, December 16, 2012
It's not a gun issue. It's an issue of how mental illness is looked at and how it is treated. Facilities should not be closed and funding should not be cut.
laura
2:19 pm on Sunday, December 16, 2012
I think it's an issue of accessibility. I do not own firearms, choose not to and don't want them in my home; but it's a person's right in the U.S. to choose for him- or herself. But background checks only work so far, especially if the person has not been recorded in the mental health or criminal justice systems. Is there a way to modify weapons or even ammunition to track them remotely or even disable them if the owner doesn't match the user? Will there ever be a system, rather like an electronic car ignition, to do something like that at all? Fanciful, wishful thinking, I know, and far too late for too many victims. One can only hope....
laura brody
3:38 pm on Sunday, December 16, 2012
"An armed society is a polite society" Robert A. Heinlein
Steve W
11:37 pm on Sunday, December 16, 2012
Try reading this from Harvard University Journal of Law. It proves that more gun ownership leads to less violent confrontational crimes.
http://www.law.harvard.edu/students/orgs/jlpp/Vol30_No2_KatesMauseronline.pdf
Steve T.
7:30 am on Monday, December 17, 2012
Morgan Freeman's brilliant take on what happened yesterday :
It's because of the way the media reports it. Flip on the news and watch how we treat the Batman theater shooter and the Oregon mall shooter like celebrities. Dylan Klebold and Eric Harris are household names, but do you know the name of a single *victim* of Columbine? Disturbed
people who would otherwise just off themselves in their basements see the news and want to top it by doing something worse, and going out in a memorable way. Why a grade school? Why children? Because he'll be remembered as a horrible monster, instead of a sad nobody.
CNN's article says that if the body count "holds up", this will rank as the second deadliest shooting behind Virginia Tech, as if statistics somehow make one shooting worse than another. Then they post a video interview of third-graders for all the details of what they saw and heard while the shootings were happening. Fox News has plastered the killer's face on all their reports for hours. Any articles or news stories yet that focus on the victims and ignore the killer's identity? None that I've seen yet. Because they don't sell. So congratulations, sensationalist media, you've just lit the fire for someone to top this and knock off a day care center or a maternity ward next.
You can help by forgetting you ever read this man's name, and remembering the name of at least one victim. instead of pointing to gun control as the problem. You can help by turning off the news."
Arthur Huff
10:09 am on Monday, December 17, 2012
Unfortunately Joe it appears this was a hoax and not an actual statement from Morgan Freeman.
Progress
12:26 pm on Sunday, December 30, 2012
Whether it was a hoax or not the left and right media are out off control.This scumbag got his wish in the end. We can never calculate the years of contributions lost that these young souls had to offer to society .Yet we hear about the disgusting monster who contributed sorrow and pain for these families. Everybody reading this should strive to learn more about the victims first before the villain , including myself.