Is this man an American citizen? If not, can he be shipped off to his own country? Our tax dollars are being wasted on this murderer... Whether he's a citizen or not. Lowest kind of scum there is.

Lemme see if I understand this. Instead of facing a potential sentence of 20-60 years in prison at 100% time, you want to "ship him off to his own country" where he may go free or face no penalty at all or even be a hero? Assuming he's not a citizen, of course.

SHIP EM ALL BACK!!!!!!

Didn't you know that Muslims can beat their wives anytime?? That is their religion. Way to open our country to allow "religious" freedom.

Dear Baba Wawa
I suppose you think if he came up with the bond money he should be let out just like Gary Swiercz????

Muslims canNOT beat their wives at anytime!! Get ur facts straight before u make such statements. Islam in its true state is a beautiful and peaceful religion. Unfortunately there are some out there that have their own set of rules and ruin the reputation for others. But again I will say Muslims CANNOT beat their wives at anytime. What this unhumane person has done is commit murder!! Please don't make uninformed generalised statements.

Scum bag! !!

this family is Christian. they are from Egypt. neither Arab or Muslim. either way it was a terrible act.

The ignorance of you people is ridiculous! You obviously dont know anything about other religons. And to say send people back to "their" countries is stupid. EVERYONE in this united states comes from another country.

not really. i was born at Christ hospital in oak lawn in 1967. im pretty sure i didnt come from another country. neither did my parents or grand parents. heritage or nationality is different from what country you are from.

baba wawa is the new deb melchant of the patch. snickin' her nose into every storys comments with her pearls of wisdom. get a hobby. post a comment for entertainment value once in a while instead of the usual ''know it all'' diatribe crap . how many people even get the baba wawa reference gilda?

Clearly I asked if he is a CITIZEN of this country, if not, yes I do think he should return to the country he IS a citizen of. And I'm not a fan of our tax dollars housing a murderer in jail that is not a citizen here...and if he's not a citizen, and he were to be sent to his country.... I could care less how they manage him there.

Such a shame. I am sick reading the above posts, everyone blaming someone else because of their nationality, citizen or not etc. Has everyone lost focus. It is sad enough that the two judges this man appeared in front of did not put an end to the violence then, by a much harsher punishment. My sadness is for the children, they are truly the victims as well as the mother. Instead of all the insults and blaming the afterfact, put effort into finding ways to help this family in need. These childred are left without parents, hearts filled with sadness, they need help beyond belief. Not all this garbage that goes nowhere. Do society a favor, find a way to help others that are not as fortunate as all of you! Do something meaningful, not meaningless words.

I am shocked how some of you are so ignorant, and unintelligent-Bob C. and Kerri U.
To top it off, you are signing your names to your idiotic statements-get a clue!

Sorry Karen, we all have our opinions...this is the forum for them. This pig that did this crime... He deserves nothing...that's my opinion....yes I'd like to ship him somewhere, anywhere.... Just not here.

I agree with well informed. I am guessing your mother never taught you to judge an individual by how they treated you? My most wonderful, respectful, kind and caring friend is Muslim. How can you be so shallow as to talk of someone like that man and include his entire race of people? Such an insult. You really seem like idiots. I hope for your sake that someday you will stop the prejudice and give each person that crosses your path a chance, if not, shame on you.

I do agree this man acted out a horrible crime, he deserves the utmost punishment. However, i am not one that believes "out of sight, out of mind" in these circumstances. Sure, we could ship him elsewhere, just to have him act out his anger on another undeserving victim. Not my idea of justice. I also think we need to spend more energy reaching out and helping the children. Just my opinion and i have already taken the steps to do so. I will sleep well tonight. Happy New Year.

I don't recall stating anything racial, just if he isn't a citizen...go back where he was taught to behave the way he did. My mom taught me well, take a look in the mirror yourself, you just can't keep your mouth shut! I slept very well tonight. I'm glad you reached out to help the children ( getting the pat on the back you were looking for). You and your holier than thou opinion, well you can have it... Not interested in your way of thinking at all.

Mrs.406
Shut up your comments and your "opinions" are STUPID
Go grow the other half of your brain !!!!

I think everyone here missed the part that he pleaded NOT GUILTY! I'm sorry, but doesn't the statement of a 4 year old tell what really happened that day?! I pray that the little boy doesn't have to testify and relive that day again. Praying for that family to heal. My heart breaks for what the children must have lived with for so many years. May the cycle of violence be broken here for them. And for the other nastiness here...yes, this is a horrid crime and he should be punished to the maximum. However, this kind of hatred is what is fueling so much of the violence and hate crimes right here in our own back yard. It is no different what race or religion this man was. Fact is a man killed his wife...in front of his own child. For the Christians out there may I remind you...
http://www.openbible.info/topics/judging_others

Qur'an (4:34) "Men are the maintainer of women because Allah has made some of them to excel others and because they spend out of their property; the good women are therefore obedient, guarding the unseen as Allah has guarded; and (as to) those on whose part you fear desertion, ADMONISH them, and leave them alone in the sleeping-places and BEAT them; then if they obey you, do not seek a way against them."

Do not tell me I am ignorant or wrong. I realize not all Muslims beat their wives but their religion gives them the "right" to do so. I was wrong in my assumption of the man's religion or lack thereof and for that I apologize. I did not state that only Muslims beat their wives unfortunately every race and ethnic group has men that do that.

Get them the hell out of our country!!!!!!!!!!

hey.... its legal in their country/religion! ahhaha what a scumbag the kid will be scared for life. SHIP HIM BACK!

To Mrs. 406,
What a shame to think we would help children just for recognition or a pat on the back. That statement clearly tells me that you are completely oblivious to the common sense reasoning of our actions. Clearly you are a woman who likes a good argument and is unable to process what we were explaining. I do not care to argue as i feel it is a waste of time and you are not a person with whom we can discuss issues or even agree to disagree. And regarding your statement above, i do not feel we have taken on a holier than thou attitude. You also say you are not interested in our way of thinking, your choice. However, maybe someday if you open your mind a bit to broader solutions, you may even be able to reach out and help someone in need instead of just pointing a finger and being judgemental. I will hope for that for you because it is a much healthier place to be.

If you want to know what "intellectuals" live in your community, all you have to do is come on the Patch and read people's posts. If they were said in a public forum (meaning, in person) you could at least take a picture and know who the village idiots were ... these posts about immigration policy, religion, culture, and legal jurisprudence are priceless. Makes me want to come up with a device you can attach to a computer like a breathalyzer which measures your IQ before you can use it.

No one here claimed to be an intellectual. I do think a bit of xenophobia is warranted though. I read a few other media posts (tribune, southwest town, etc) and it sounds like he punched her and bit her in front of their kids in June because she wouldn't sleep with him. I'm not saying that there aren't other men in America who would do that. But people will naturally put this guy's misogynistic outburst together with the fact that women in some Middle Eastern countries are not allowed to drive cars or be seen in public without a male chaperone, and will conclude that this guy has no right to be in the country. I understand that his wife was a Christian, but I never saw evidence of his religious affiliation.

But tp_pete, it sounds like you don't think Frankfort Patch contributors aren't going to solve domestic violence this weekend - and I just disagree.

Hopefully, a Will County Sheriffs gun 'accidentally' discharges while close to Mr. Sam. Or better yet Hans & Franz bludgeon him to death w/ their dumbbell.

Whoops, double negative in that sentence. I don't want tp_pete to think I'm not an intellectual.

My last post was apparently censored - maybe we have some Chinese ex-patriots at the Patch who are overzealous with their censorship - but it merely stated that I concede that there are bad Christians as well. Catholics can abuse their wives too.

My deleted point was this: In Frankfort, I don't think any young girls receive clitorectomies - unlike Somalia. Few girls in Frankfort are shot in the head for speaking in defense of educational equality for the sexes - unlike Pakistan. Very few women in Frankfort are stoned to death for committing adultery - unlike Mali. I understand that he may or may not have been Muslim, but he comes from Egypt, which shares an Arabic and Islamic culture, where women are not treated as they are in the U.S. Cultural norms are absorbed through day-to-day interaction, and with 90% of the Egyptian population being Muslim, those norms are undoubtedly conveyed and probably embraced.

We know that women are not allowed to pray in the same area of the mosque as well. I have worked with Muslims, we have Muslim neighbors, I grew up in a University-town which had a very diverse international population (Madison, WI), I took coursework in religious studies - focused on the "Abrahamic" religions: Islam, Christianity, Judaism. I am not completely ignorant.

I am still defending those who have made posts questioning whether his cultural heritage has contributed to his treatment of his former wife. Now my deleted posts may not be as P.C. as the guy who said "get them the hell out of the country", but I'll stand by my assessment of the differences between Western and Middle Eastern cultures.

For those saying this guy is Muslim and its allowed to beat your wife if you are Muslim, how's this for a big surprise? The guy is Christian. Coptic orthodox to be correct. He is from Egypt. So I guess Christian's are allowed to beat their wives as well then huh? And what do half of anybody know about any other religion besides their own? Absolutely nada except what we get from other ignorant people thinking they know it all. Since people want to be a know it all, why don't you Wikipedia it while your at it...google Islam and see if the religion states "a Muslim man is allowed to beat his wife anytime" if you can find it in the Koran, I will eat my words and agree 100 % and say all of those stereotyping Islam are the smartest people on this planet and buy them all dinner.

Lee, Karen did this days ago:

Qur'an (4:34) "Men are the maintainer of women because Allah has made some of them to excel others and because they spend out of their property; the good women are therefore obedient, guarding the unseen as Allah has guarded; and (as to) those on whose part you fear desertion, ADMONISH them, and leave them alone in the sleeping-places and BEAT them; then if they obey you, do not seek a way against them."

But since I re-quoted her with the information that you sought, I'll take some crab legs from Red Lobster.